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Poster: skybandit Date: Dec 20, 2009 5:03am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Quick question for Video-Cellar

In a previous conversation, you said "They Saved Hitler's Brain" was copyright due to it's original 1963 incarnation as "The Madmen of Mandoras" being renewed. However, an additional 20+ minutes was added to make "Brain," which would make it a new work. They also left the 1963 copyright notice on it, which would be invalid due to the additional footage being added in the 70's. Doesn't that make "Brain" PD, regardless of the status of "Madmen," or am I missing some subtle nuances of the applicable laws?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Dec 20, 2009 9:36pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Quick question for Video-Cellar

They can claim elements from the original film as underlying rights. Sort of the same as with "It's a Wonderful Life" and "The Pajama Game", which are both PD through non-renewal but kept under copyright control through the underlying literary and dramatic/musical copyrights. But in this case the underlying rights are the original movie.

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Poster: skybandit Date: Dec 21, 2009 12:14am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Quick question for Video-Cellar

Bummer. Thanks for the info!

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Dec 21, 2009 1:24am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Quick question for Video-Cellar

I just bought "Madmen of Mandoras" and "They Saved Hitler's Brain" that were together in a boxed set with other Crown National films. I watched them back-to-back a few days ago to compare and the new footage in "Brain" did not match up at all with the rest of the film, so much so that I think I would have been able to tell even if I had never seen "Madmen". I couldn't be sure if they took out any footage from "Madmen" to make "Brain", but if they did, it wasn't much. Other filmakers also did this with films, "Godzilla, King Of The Monsters" being a prime example. Al Adamson also did this fairly often with films such as "Vampire Men Of The Lost Planet" aka "Horror Of The Blood Monsters".

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Poster: CaseySerin Date: Dec 21, 2009 10:00am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Quick question for Video-Cellar


It's an interesting and complex issue. I understand that none of the Donny and Marie Osmond work is in the public domain, but due to various paperwork snafus, the actual human people Donny and Marie Osmond are in no way protected by law. If you can get to them through their considerable security (Mormon attack mutants!), you can do with them as you will, with no penalties under law. That Marie is still pretty hot, even though she's old and crazy and occasionally a big fat pig. ROWR!!!!

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Poster: gestroud Date: Dec 21, 2009 10:12am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Quick question for Video-Cellar

Marie Osmond might be slightly eccentric and occasionally overweight, but since when is 50 "old?"

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Poster: skybandit Date: Dec 21, 2009 11:34am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Quick question for Video-Cellar

"They Saved Marie's Ass," a Crown Utah Release, coming to a theater near you.